Oh, Heroes, what’s to be done with you? Why are you putting me through this? I loved you, but you’ve let me down lately and I just don’t know what to do anymore. I’m at my wits end. I had thought, after the disastrous Season 2, that you would get back on track. You worked your way back to some of your former glory, but it took so much time for you to clean up your act. Now, I hear things. Worrisome news, really, and I’m at a loss.
For example, the recent confirmation that producer Bryan Fuller is leaving the show. For those of you who don’t know, Bryan was a producer during Season 1, arguably the best season of the show thus far (and I say “arguably”, because I know there are at least three people out there who will argue with me, because at least three people always argue with me). Then he left and I honestly can’t remember why, but I think we all remember Season 2 and the beginning of Season 3. If you don’t, it’s because you managed to drink enough alcohol to block the memory from your brain.
Towards the end of Season 3, Bryan returned as producer to the show and it really started to pick up again. While the whole Fugitives Volume wasn’t the best, it got a lot better towards the end when we learned more about Coyote Sands and Mama Petrelli’s past. The show was getting good again. Now, there’s word that Bryan is too busy working on other shows for NBC to focus on Heroes. Oh, they say he’ll still be a consulting producer, but come on, the dude is basically gone from the show.
Remember when the show held such promise? Remember when “save the cheerleader, save the world” was practically a freaking anthem? Remember when everyone was all “uh….those Petrelli brothers hug each other a little too much, don’t they?” Now people don’t even care enough to comment on the somewhat inappropriate brotherly love and it just makes me sad. Because I want my show back. In light of this, I’ve put together a little wish list for the producers. A list of my suggestions that might help improve the situation once and for all. Here goes:
(1) No more new characters. Remember Maya and that brother of hers? Ugh. Big mistake. Remember Peter’s Irish girlfriend who was basically left all alone in the future because people didn’t really give a crap whether she lived or died? What I really remember is the character-centric story-lines of Season 1. I want the show to focus on the old characters, the ones I actually care about: the Bennetts, the Petrellis, maybe even Tracy if they can figure out what to do with her.
Anyone will tell you that a show occasionally needs some new blood and that’s true, but introducing new characters and focusing on them at the expense of the old characters that we actually like is problematic. Because, to be honest with you, none of the new characters ever last. For example, where’s Maya, or Irish Girlfriend, or Elle (although, I kind of liked her) or any of the other new characters introduced in Seasons 2 and 3? You know where they are? They’re mostly dead and that’s a good thing in many cases.
I think the show started to realize this towards the end of last season and really started focusing on the original characters again (think back to the recent season finale….were any of the new characters even in it?). I want this to continue, but then I hear about all sorts of new characters being introduced in the next season: carnival people, a new love interest for Peter, a new roommate for Claire. Sigh. Really? How long will these people last and why should I care?
(2) Heroes is about characters, not superpowers. Let’s be honest, we all know that Heroes is a character-driven show. It’s not Transformers, right? It’s not just about CGI and special effects. Yes, we all love to see new and cool powers or see our heroes using their powers, but lately the writers have thrown way too many powers into the mix and things have gotten confusing. I’m still really confused about the status of Peter’s powers. I don’t need to see a new character who has the ability to imitate everything they see on TV (oops, they did that one already, didn’t they?).
My point is, I liked the show better when they focused more on character development and used the powers to aid that character development or explore issues with the characters. So, producers, writers….whoever….we don’t need you to keep coming up with new, crazy powers in order to keep our interest, alright? Just make me interested in the characters again.
(3) Stop traveling through time, you bloody time travelers. Some shows do amazing things with time travel. Case in point: the series finale of Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles (damn you, Fox, for canceling that show). When John Connor jumped into the future, thereby wiping out his past and essentially becoming a nobody in the future where he was supposed to be the bloody savior of humanity, I was shouting “awesome!” I have no doubt that had the show continued, it would have totally kicked ass with that time travel story.
Heroes, however, does not do time travel well. Like, ever. The few times that characters have gone into the future, nothing’s really happened. Oh, sure, one time the future managed to conveniently get rid of that Irish chick, but those episodes were really kind of pointless. So……Sylar’s living in the future Bennett house with a son and Mr. Muggles and….what? Why does that matter? Hiro traveled back in time and we had that whole situation that I’m not even going to mention because it just makes me angry.
I think the only time travel episode I liked was the glimpse five years into the future (episode 1.20 “Five Years Gone”), where Peter and Nikki were together and Nathan was actually Sylar and the president. That was all dark and moody but, really, the episode still kind of had no point even if it was awesome. Heroes is never really about changing the past or the future, no matter what it claims, because the time travel episodes are generally self-contained and one-off. There’s no point in wasting precious screen time in either of those locations anymore, so please stop.
(4) Robert Knepper may very well be the one exception to the “no more new characters” recommendation. Seriously, that guy was awesome as T-Bag in Prison Break and I have no doubt that he’ll be awesome in this show. If you absolutely insist on bringing in new actors, Knepper was a good choice. Let’s focus on him interacting with our original characters. And if there’s a way to make him a Southern, creepy pedophile, then roll with it. I’m telling you, he does that well.
(5) Stop trying to change the characters’ personalities. Listen, people don’t change, alright? Any girl who’s tried to change a boyfriend or husband will attest to this fact. So why is Heroes trying to change the fundamental personalities of characters? Nathan will always been ambitious, but still love his brother. Sylar is EVIL. Claire is a cheerleader with powers. So when did Sylar turn into a somewhat noble person? And why did Claire go on that huge “I want to be a hero” quest? And why is Hiro acting all serious all of a sudden? These changes in personality just bugs me, because it also relates to #1 and #2 above. When I say I want to see more focus on the original character-driven stories, I mean with original personalities of the original characters.
Sure, sure, people grow and adapt and circumstances change, but making the characters do all sorts of out-of-character things just drives me crazy. Like, for example, making Mohinder some sort of evil scientist. WTF?! Where the heck did that come from?
(6) Go back to basics. Listen, reinventing a show is all well and good, but only if the show sucks. Yes, the Season 1 finale of Heroes may have not been as good as the preceding episodes, but I think we can agree it was still better than a lot of stuff that followed it. The show didn’t need to go in a new direction. This suggestion is basically a summary of the others: go back to what made your show great. Go back to character-driven plots with the original characters that we liked. That’s it.
Well, that all doesn’t sound so hard, right? What do you guys think? Do you disagree? Agree? What are some of your suggestions?
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I agree with everything you are saying here, but I really feel like it might be too late for Heroes.
If you look at all four "volumes" (over three seasons), only one, Volume 1, was really great. The other three have been decidedly disappointing. Only a fool would be happy with a 25% success rate, and an awesome first Volume can't make up for three bombs in a row. There's just too much bloated back story now. As much as I love the idea of a show like this, I have serious doubts in Tim Kring's ability to do it right. I can only judge by what I see, and I'm sure most would agree with me when I say that what I see doesn't look too promising.
On the other hand, T-Bag is awesome!
I agree with everything you are saying here, but I really feel like it might be too late for Heroes.
If you look at all four “volumes” (over three seasons), only one, Volume 1, was really great. The other three have been decidedly disappointing. Only a fool would be happy with a 25% success rate, and an awesome first Volume can’t make up for three bombs in a row. There’s just too much bloated back story now. As much as I love the idea of a show like this, I have serious doubts in Tim Kring’s ability to do it right. I can only judge by what I see, and I’m sure most would agree with me when I say that what I see doesn’t look too promising.
On the other hand, T-Bag is awesome!
Perfect! This is exactly why I never missed an episode of season 1, watched 3 episodes of season two, and skipped season 3 entirely. Well said.
Perfect! This is exactly why I never missed an episode of season 1, watched 3 episodes of season two, and skipped season 3 entirely. Well said.
I'm sorry I get not focusing on the new characters so much but people do change all the time I know I've made mistakes that make me look just like mohinder did in season 3 he was frustrated after all that time he had nothing and he took this substance that screwed him up and sylar is not evil there's no such thing he's just a scared little boy with mommy issues who happens to be able to take it out on other people plus he's addicted to abilities anyone who's never been addicted to anything can piss off on that point because you don't understand and the time travel if you could kick your brain into gear you would understand it because it's simple they go forward to see how things end up and find clues how to fix it because despite what you think being a hero is about making a better future not being a character I've enjoyed all three seasons of heroes and I just hope there aren't enough people like you to get it cancelled
But that is the problem, TC – time travel is not a simple matter, it has wide reaching implications; or at least it should. And sorry, but the characterization of Sylar over the past couple of seasons reads like something written without ever cracking open the DSMIV. Frankly, Sylar's character has become the sort of cut-out character that can only be the product of televised pop-psychology; if it were a lesser actor than Zachary Quinto emoting the crap they wrote for him, Sylar's arc would have been completely laughable.
Trust me, I understand time travel when it's done intelligently. When Heroes travels into the future they very rarely learn lessons from those experiences. I have no problem with time travel as a plot device, but shows that use it as a technique for entertainment should at least do it well.
I’m sorry I get not focusing on the new characters so much but people do change all the time I know I’ve made mistakes that make me look just like mohinder did in season 3 he was frustrated after all that time he had nothing and he took this substance that screwed him up and sylar is not evil there’s no such thing he’s just a scared little boy with mommy issues who happens to be able to take it out on other people plus he’s addicted to abilities anyone who’s never been addicted to anything can piss off on that point because you don’t understand and the time travel if you could kick your brain into gear you would understand it because it’s simple they go forward to see how things end up and find clues how to fix it because despite what you think being a hero is about making a better future not being a character I’ve enjoyed all three seasons of heroes and I just hope there aren’t enough people like you to get it cancelled
But that is the problem, TC – time travel is not a simple matter, it has wide reaching implications; or at least it should. And sorry, but the characterization of Sylar over the past couple of seasons reads like something written without ever cracking open the DSMIV. Frankly, Sylar’s character has become the sort of cut-out character that can only be the product of televised pop-psychology; if it were a lesser actor than Zachary Quinto emoting the crap they wrote for him, Sylar’s arc would have been completely laughable.
Trust me, I understand time travel when it’s done intelligently. When Heroes travels into the future they very rarely learn lessons from those experiences. I have no problem with time travel as a plot device, but shows that use it as a technique for entertainment should at least do it well.
Well, I do agree with everything that you said… I really do. When Heroes first aired, I said "Now this is something that I am interested in watching." And for me, since X-Files canceled, all hope for my interest on TV was canceled right along with it. Well, except for LOST of course, that show cured me. But, back to Heroes. I've always been a comic book fan, X-Men, Batman, Superman, you name it. So, of course Heroes brought promise. The first season was great, I was really into it. I liked learning about each individual character. I had a holy crap moment when Peter started flying, and even more excited when his powers started to really show.
In my humble opinion, it seems to me that the writers said "Hey, we have an idea for an awesome show. We'll do the 1st season and see what happens from there." The 2nd season kinda shows that. The writing was horrible. Tasteless. Dry. And it made me regret buying the 1st season on DVD. The 3rd season, I liked the idea of it… but it didn't really pull through.
They need to stick with the original characters, and have them figure out why exactly they have been given their powers in the first place. Also, instead of introduce new characters, maybe have their powers evolve a bit. Clair for instance… she obviously can't die, unless her head is taken off or whatever… but really, atleast her do something usefull. Nathan, pick a damn side. Sylar, he should still be evil. Claire's father…. I was actually hoping that he had some kind of hidden power. For some powerless guy, he should have been killed off a long time ago. I didn't mind that they gave Mohinder powers, but an evil scientist, no thaks. The Petrelli really do hug too much. I have two sisters and I can't even remember the last time I hugged them. If I had a brother, I think I would only high-five him once in a while lol. Speaking of the Petrelli family… what was the point of bringing back his father? I took a few episodes break and when I went back to watching it, he was dead already!
That's all I have to say.
Well, I do agree with everything that you said… I really do. When Heroes first aired, I said “Now this is something that I am interested in watching.” And for me, since X-Files canceled, all hope for my interest on TV was canceled right along with it. Well, except for LOST of course, that show cured me. But, back to Heroes. I’ve always been a comic book fan, X-Men, Batman, Superman, you name it. So, of course Heroes brought promise. The first season was great, I was really into it. I liked learning about each individual character. I had a holy crap moment when Peter started flying, and even more excited when his powers started to really show.
In my humble opinion, it seems to me that the writers said “Hey, we have an idea for an awesome show. We’ll do the 1st season and see what happens from there.” The 2nd season kinda shows that. The writing was horrible. Tasteless. Dry. And it made me regret buying the 1st season on DVD. The 3rd season, I liked the idea of it… but it didn’t really pull through.
They need to stick with the original characters, and have them figure out why exactly they have been given their powers in the first place. Also, instead of introduce new characters, maybe have their powers evolve a bit. Clair for instance… she obviously can’t die, unless her head is taken off or whatever… but really, atleast her do something usefull. Nathan, pick a damn side. Sylar, he should still be evil. Claire’s father…. I was actually hoping that he had some kind of hidden power. For some powerless guy, he should have been killed off a long time ago. I didn’t mind that they gave Mohinder powers, but an evil scientist, no thaks. The Petrelli really do hug too much. I have two sisters and I can’t even remember the last time I hugged them. If I had a brother, I think I would only high-five him once in a while lol. Speaking of the Petrelli family… what was the point of bringing back his father? I took a few episodes break and when I went back to watching it, he was dead already!
That’s all I have to say.
As far as no new characters, I've already seen several new characters planned – supposedly next season will have a "traveling circus" feel (not my words).
I think the best way to fix Heroes would be to take it away from Tim Kring. What an idiot.
As far as no new characters, I’ve already seen several new characters planned – supposedly next season will have a “traveling circus” feel (not my words).
I think the best way to fix Heroes would be to take it away from Tim Kring. What an idiot.
Want to fix heroes? Do what crazy bearded Jack said and give it to J.J. Abrams! Nuff Said!!!
Is it possible that everything J.J. Abrams touches will turn to gold? Maybe you've got a point, Yippityyap. At the very least, he would probably give Greg Grunberg some awesome lines. The two of them are always good together.
Want to fix heroes? Do what crazy bearded Jack said and give it to J.J. Abrams! Nuff Said!!!
Is it possible that everything J.J. Abrams touches will turn to gold? Maybe you’ve got a point, Yippityyap. At the very least, he would probably give Greg Grunberg some awesome lines. The two of them are always good together.
Instead of not introducing new characters, I want them to kill off the old ones, most of them anyway. Keep Sylar. I'm really beginning to hate Tracy, Noah and Claire, and be gone with Mohinder already?
I don't think they're using their powers enough. When's the last time Ando supercharged someone? When's the last time Tracy frooze a guy? When's the last time Claire… did anything? And I think we can all argee Mohinder isn't using his enhanced strength enough, if at all.
For a final thought, I definitly think they should bring back Samson. John Glover was awesome!
Instead of not introducing new characters, I want them to kill off the old ones, most of them anyway. Keep Sylar. I’m really beginning to hate Tracy, Noah and Claire, and be gone with Mohinder already?
I don’t think they’re using their powers enough. When’s the last time Ando supercharged someone? When’s the last time Tracy frooze a guy? When’s the last time Claire… did anything? And I think we can all argee Mohinder isn’t using his enhanced strength enough, if at all.
For a final thought, I definitly think they should bring back Samson. John Glover was awesome!
I think that you've somewhat hit the nail on the head, but not exactly. I'll try to dissect your suggestions one at a time, if simply because it's the easiest way.
No new characters? I can understand a distaste for characters who are dull, bland, and take away from the other (original) characters, but that doesn't mean they're all worthless. I think Season 2 (despite how much it is maligned by everyone) wasn't such a bad season, it just had a few planning flaws with it's new characters. Oh, and we didn't need any more terribly whiny characters, which is really what made Maya and her brother annoying…we already had Claire whining and complaining about every little thing. I actually like Adam, on the other hand. He was somewhat entertaining, and it was interesting to see his arc from "really selfish guy just out for money" to "guy who reluctantly becomes a hero because he was promised these things" to "guy who has a vengeful hatred because all those things that were supposed to be his were taken away". I can't even remember any other Season 2 introductions…wait, no, I just tried to forget the entire Micah-related storyline with his cousin. Just annoyingly dull.
Heroes is about characters, not superpowers? Actually, I agree with you entirely, though I do enjoy an interesting power or two. And yes, I would like clarification of Peter's powers as of now. And a few others, like the Haitian. After re-watching early Season 1, there were a lot of times when people just used their powers around him anyway, such as Parkman and Nathan.
Stop time travelling is exactly what I started saying around the time when I realized they had completely left behind Peter's Irish girlfriend to the abyss of a horrible future. I can understand that they made a mistake in introducing her (I kind of liked their half of the plot, but I'll accept others didn't), but at least do it with conviction and just properly kill her or have her leave Peter by choice. Don't leave these bad loose ends. I guess that would apply for all aspects of the story, but time travel makes it especially bad.
Yes. Robert Knepper is an exception to a "no more new characters" idea, but I used to think Zeljko Ivanek would be, too. He kind of was. Oh, and I did enjoy Kristen Bell as Elle and the Daphne Milbrook character, despite what odd writing came with her…so we'll see.
Stop trying to change the characters' personalities is one other thing I consistently said…usually. I could use a bit less whining from Claire, and a more skillful attempt at humanizing Sylar would be fine, the writing was simply not up to snuff for the purpose.
Go back to basics? As much as I hear that one often for various shows (I'm pretty sure it's been said of LOST since season 2 started), I don't think it's ever really that easy…and even worth it. They definitely can't put people back in the same situation they were in at the start of season 1. It just wouldn't make sense for people to be so confused as to what is going on with them, unless they start drastically altering their powers or such. I'm not sure how much chance they have to going back to basics.
Overall, I really fear if there's much of a life left in Heroes. I just don't know if they really have anywhere interesting they can go. One main piece of advice I do maintain is this: if you make a mistake, do it with some conviction. I'll pull LOST back in as my example. Everyone remembers Paolo and Nikki, right? Does anyone think they would've done so if there wasn't a episode devoted to them? Maybe, Losties are like that, but still, that was the main sticking point. Still, TPTB said "well, we're going to keep them around, even if just to tell a semi-interesting story that we kill them off in". How does Heroes resolve the mistakes? They throw away the characters as if they were less than an after-thought. The biggest two examples of this idiocy, in my opinion, exist in the first half of season 3: the deaths of Adam and Mr. Petrelli. They just get tossed away after such a big build up of how formidable they are, making them look really pathetic.
Finally, was I the only one who didn't agree that the end of season 3 was downhill from what that Fugitives storyline had been leading to? The whole Coyote Sands thing just made me go "ugh, more Petrellis", and then wonder why I should care about any of it. It just seemed like Kring and co. wanted to make sure they included that plotline, and were afraid that NBC would cancel them before season 4.
That's just my say. I'll probably still tune into Heroes for at least two or three episodes, like I did with the third season of Prison Break…actually, I caught most of that. Besides, I can't think of much else that's great on Monday nights.
I think that you’ve somewhat hit the nail on the head, but not exactly. I’ll try to dissect your suggestions one at a time, if simply because it’s the easiest way.
No new characters? I can understand a distaste for characters who are dull, bland, and take away from the other (original) characters, but that doesn’t mean they’re all worthless. I think Season 2 (despite how much it is maligned by everyone) wasn’t such a bad season, it just had a few planning flaws with it’s new characters. Oh, and we didn’t need any more terribly whiny characters, which is really what made Maya and her brother annoying…we already had Claire whining and complaining about every little thing. I actually like Adam, on the other hand. He was somewhat entertaining, and it was interesting to see his arc from “really selfish guy just out for money” to “guy who reluctantly becomes a hero because he was promised these things” to “guy who has a vengeful hatred because all those things that were supposed to be his were taken away”. I can’t even remember any other Season 2 introductions…wait, no, I just tried to forget the entire Micah-related storyline with his cousin. Just annoyingly dull.
Heroes is about characters, not superpowers? Actually, I agree with you entirely, though I do enjoy an interesting power or two. And yes, I would like clarification of Peter’s powers as of now. And a few others, like the Haitian. After re-watching early Season 1, there were a lot of times when people just used their powers around him anyway, such as Parkman and Nathan.
Stop time travelling is exactly what I started saying around the time when I realized they had completely left behind Peter’s Irish girlfriend to the abyss of a horrible future. I can understand that they made a mistake in introducing her (I kind of liked their half of the plot, but I’ll accept others didn’t), but at least do it with conviction and just properly kill her or have her leave Peter by choice. Don’t leave these bad loose ends. I guess that would apply for all aspects of the story, but time travel makes it especially bad.
Yes. Robert Knepper is an exception to a “no more new characters” idea, but I used to think Zeljko Ivanek would be, too. He kind of was. Oh, and I did enjoy Kristen Bell as Elle and the Daphne Milbrook character, despite what odd writing came with her…so we’ll see.
Stop trying to change the characters’ personalities is one other thing I consistently said…usually. I could use a bit less whining from Claire, and a more skillful attempt at humanizing Sylar would be fine, the writing was simply not up to snuff for the purpose.
Go back to basics? As much as I hear that one often for various shows (I’m pretty sure it’s been said of LOST since season 2 started), I don’t think it’s ever really that easy…and even worth it. They definitely can’t put people back in the same situation they were in at the start of season 1. It just wouldn’t make sense for people to be so confused as to what is going on with them, unless they start drastically altering their powers or such. I’m not sure how much chance they have to going back to basics.
Overall, I really fear if there’s much of a life left in Heroes. I just don’t know if they really have anywhere interesting they can go. One main piece of advice I do maintain is this: if you make a mistake, do it with some conviction. I’ll pull LOST back in as my example. Everyone remembers Paolo and Nikki, right? Does anyone think they would’ve done so if there wasn’t a episode devoted to them? Maybe, Losties are like that, but still, that was the main sticking point. Still, TPTB said “well, we’re going to keep them around, even if just to tell a semi-interesting story that we kill them off in”. How does Heroes resolve the mistakes? They throw away the characters as if they were less than an after-thought. The biggest two examples of this idiocy, in my opinion, exist in the first half of season 3: the deaths of Adam and Mr. Petrelli. They just get tossed away after such a big build up of how formidable they are, making them look really pathetic.
Finally, was I the only one who didn’t agree that the end of season 3 was downhill from what that Fugitives storyline had been leading to? The whole Coyote Sands thing just made me go “ugh, more Petrellis”, and then wonder why I should care about any of it. It just seemed like Kring and co. wanted to make sure they included that plotline, and were afraid that NBC would cancel them before season 4.
That’s just my say. I’ll probably still tune into Heroes for at least two or three episodes, like I did with the third season of Prison Break…actually, I caught most of that. Besides, I can’t think of much else that’s great on Monday nights.
Let Joss Whedon direct Heroes. It would be perfect.
Let Joss Whedon direct Heroes. It would be perfect.
You have some valid suggestions, but you're also way off the mark on a few things. For one, the "new characters" issue. The problem with new characters isn't simply the fact that they're new. Getting a little bit of new blood every now and then isn't necessarily a bad thing, but they have to be introduced and developed in a way that makes the audience care about them. Also, the fact that most "new" characters on Heroes have ended up either dead or missing isn't exactly a fabulous testament to your supposed idea that new characters should never be introduced ever. It just means that the writers were too lazy to actually figure out what to do with them, so they axed them. And your using Caitlin, Peter's Irish girlfriend, as an example of "new characters nobody cared about" shows that you're *truly* out of touch with the Heroes fandom. Seasons after her disappearance, people are STILL asking what happened to her and if she'll ever be seen again. I think it's one of the most often-asked questions I've ever seen with regard to this show.
Second, and more important, is the issue of characters changing. Now, I agree that basic character personalities and motives should *not* change, and that is something the Heroes writers definitely could–and should–improve on if they want to have any hope of saving the show. That said, you've presented it as waaaay more black and white than it actually is. An absolutely *essential* staple for any good show is character development. By throwing around such bald, blanket statements as "Sylar is EVIL" and "Claire is a cheerleader," you're doing a huge disservice to the characters by assuming that they can never be anything other than what they are now. Characters need to grow and change if they're to remain even remotely interesting. While I agree that Sylar obviously shouldn't turn into a saint overnight, a well-thought out attempt to give him some moral grayness would be *far* more interesting than just making him SHEER BLACK EVIL OMG. In fact, that's largely why he was such a fascinating character in the first place–because we saw those hints and glimpses of shy, geeky Gabriel Gray, and it gave us hope that he *could* be something other than just relentlessly monotonous evil.
Unfortunately, the problem with the Heroes writers is that they have no idea how to do realistic character development, so they resort to rushed, idiotic retconned plotlines that end with pressing a gigantic reset button, or cheap tricks to try to drive up ratings without any semblance of quality storytelling. I'm afraid that this show doomed itself the moment season one ended.
You have some valid suggestions, but you’re also way off the mark on a few things. For one, the “new characters” issue. The problem with new characters isn’t simply the fact that they’re new. Getting a little bit of new blood every now and then isn’t necessarily a bad thing, but they have to be introduced and developed in a way that makes the audience care about them. Also, the fact that most “new” characters on Heroes have ended up either dead or missing isn’t exactly a fabulous testament to your supposed idea that new characters should never be introduced ever. It just means that the writers were too lazy to actually figure out what to do with them, so they axed them. And your using Caitlin, Peter’s Irish girlfriend, as an example of “new characters nobody cared about” shows that you’re *truly* out of touch with the Heroes fandom. Seasons after her disappearance, people are STILL asking what happened to her and if she’ll ever be seen again. I think it’s one of the most often-asked questions I’ve ever seen with regard to this show.
Second, and more important, is the issue of characters changing. Now, I agree that basic character personalities and motives should *not* change, and that is something the Heroes writers definitely could–and should–improve on if they want to have any hope of saving the show. That said, you’ve presented it as waaaay more black and white than it actually is. An absolutely *essential* staple for any good show is character development. By throwing around such bald, blanket statements as “Sylar is EVIL” and “Claire is a cheerleader,” you’re doing a huge disservice to the characters by assuming that they can never be anything other than what they are now. Characters need to grow and change if they’re to remain even remotely interesting. While I agree that Sylar obviously shouldn’t turn into a saint overnight, a well-thought out attempt to give him some moral grayness would be *far* more interesting than just making him SHEER BLACK EVIL OMG. In fact, that’s largely why he was such a fascinating character in the first place–because we saw those hints and glimpses of shy, geeky Gabriel Gray, and it gave us hope that he *could* be something other than just relentlessly monotonous evil.
Unfortunately, the problem with the Heroes writers is that they have no idea how to do realistic character development, so they resort to rushed, idiotic retconned plotlines that end with pressing a gigantic reset button, or cheap tricks to try to drive up ratings without any semblance of quality storytelling. I’m afraid that this show doomed itself the moment season one ended.
No one is angry that this stupid show is cancelled.the show is stolen IP and I for one hope that those NYC artists The Twins are successful with their lawsuit MALLERY v NBCU in the courts against NBCU and the hack Tim Kring.Tim Kring should go to prison for what he tried to pull off by pretending Heroes was his original IP.I can’t wait for the truth of why Heroes failed and was pulled off the air by NBCU to come out in the media.The failure of this show and NBCU’s theft is the buzz all over the industry.GO TO MALLERY V NBCU DOCKET # 09-999 NOW!!!!Pamela says:May 22, 2010 at 1:47 pmMay 20, 2010Heroes is finished because it’s stolen IP and we applaud those NYC artists that filed the copyright infringement lawsuit against this hack tim kring and NBC 4 years ago.The lawsuit MALLERY V NBCU DOCKET# 09-999 will go before The U.S. SUPREME COURT on MAY 21, 2010.This lawsuit caused Isaac Mendez to be written off the show and many of the show’s story line to change which caused the show’s story lines to become lame and confusing, causing the show to fail.Don’t believe it, then where is Heroes today?CANCELLED.To many of us that work in the tv and film industry it is our prayer that the moron called tim kring will get exactly what’s coming to him.He’s a pathetic loser and what he stole he could not keep and the show still failed.THE TRUTH ABOUT WHY HEROES REALLY FAILED WILL SURFACE IN THE MEDIA VERY SHORTLY.What a massive financial loss to NBC.The concept of Heroes with an artist that could paint the future was created by two NYC artists called The Twins.The Male twin Eele is a real living Luba Divination Artist that can paint the future.His tribe THE LUBA art work is part of the permanent collection of the Met Museum NYC and Mr. Eele’s Luba Divination Art is part of the archives of The NY Historical Society listed under “CityLore” curated by Ms. Sally Herships.Eele and his twin Amnau created a fictional character called ( Idai Markus the black artist that could paint the future on large canvas and his canvas showed that terrorists was going to destroy two NYC landmark buildings and with this canvas Idai and several regular people with extraordinary powers was going to use the art to stop this tragedy) this story is based on Mr. Eele’s real life experience as an artist with this rare artistic ability.In 2005 Hunter College NYC invited Mr. Eele and his twin Amnau to teach the students about this rare artform and about their pioneering character Idai Markus.NBC heard about this show on the Associated Press and sent NBC representatives which included Bryan fuller to the show.On September 26, 2006 Idai Markus the black artist that could paint the future became Isaac Mendez the latino artist that could paint the future on canvas and Isaac’s canvas depicted that terrorists was going to destroy two NYC landmark buildings and that several ordinary people with extraordinary powers was going to use the art along with Isaac to stop this tragedy.The only changes tim kring made between the characters was race and he gave Issac Mendez a drug problem.Isaac could only paint the future when he shot up drugs. how racist is that?How do I know all of this?I am a writer and I’ve been working on this story for 4 years and most of this information can be found in the lawsuit.anyway…. the lawsuit entered the court system and NBCU admitted to “accessing and copying” The Twins copyrighted IP to create Heroes.Here is where i stop telling this fascinating story because you’ll have to wait for my book.But I’ll leave you all with this….The truth about how NBCU and tim kring tried to steal these nyc artists original copyrighted work to create Heroes is going to stun the world and it will teach hollywood an important lesson about buying and investing into stolen copyrighted intellectual property by hacks like tim kring.you owe to yourself to view the lawsuit MALLERY V NBCU, this lawsuit will answer all of your questions of what really happened to Heroes.Here’s an example of what can be found by viewing the lawsuit MALLERY V NBCU> — “John A. Coleman, Jr.> wrote:>> >> >> > Begin forwarded message:> >> > > From: “John A. Coleman, Jr. Attorney for plaintiffs in Mallery V NBCU> > > Date: December 17, 2007 1:05:26 PM EST> > > To: Marcia Paul NBCU Attorney> > > Subject: Mallery v. NBCU> > >> > > Marcia:> > >> > > My clients decline NBC’s settlement offer.> > >> > >> > > John> > >> > >> > > John A. Coleman, Jr.> > >> > > Friedberg Cohen Coleman & Pinkas, LLP> > >> > > 444 Madison Avenue> > > Suite 805> > > New York, New York 10022> > > Tel (212) 829-9090To read how Tim Kring claimed “He lied, cheated etc… to get Heroes on the air log on to;http://blog.the-eg.com/2007/12/04/tim-kringWOULD YOU MAKE THE STATEMENTS THAT TIM KRING MADE IN THIS INTERVIEW IF YOU WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF A COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT LAWSUIT?TIM KRING IS 57 YEARS OLD WITH A WIFE AND TWO KIDS ( AGES 7 AND 9).